This review in the New Yorker of some books on Hannah Arendt and this post by Peony on Arendt got me to thinking (and that can be dangerous at times).  And that thinking involved Confucius, since I noticed an idea in Arendt that seemed solidly Confucian, but another idea that was not.  Now, I do not expect a twentieth century thinker like Arendt to be perfectly consonant with Confucianism.   But the contrast of ideas here brought up some questions about what Confucianism can be in a modern context and what public life should be based upon.

First, here are a couple of lines about Arendt from Peony:

….She is, indeed, like many European philosophers concerned with our
POLITICAL condition (and that means, she is, like Aristotle, concerned
with our SHARED human experience). That is to say, really, that if
thought does not somehow inspire action, if one does not lead a life of
action (
vita activa) then our thinking will remain impoverished (this is the great rejection of Plato).

This sounds Confucian to me.  In order to work toward Humanity, we must perform our duties.  Thought must inspire action.  And although Confucian Duties start first in what Arendt might consider the personal realm, with our families, they radiate outward to society at large.  Indeed, the idea of shared human experience is a major concern of Confucius.  It is precisely because the shared experience of his own time, the dissolution of the central Zhou kingdom and the prevalence of inter-state warfare, was so violent and immoral that he worked to create a new social order.  He was trying to improve, albeit from the inside our (i.e. working from family to community to "nation"), shared human experience.  He believed that to make that improvement, thought must inspire action.  And he held that those who were best at managing their closet loving relationships, the most virtuous among us, would be best to lead the rest of us as we created a shared human experience.

But love seems to separate Confucius and Arendt.   Take this passage from the New Yorker piece:

Arendt’s experience at the Eichmann trial bolstered the belief that
defines her political philosophy: that there must be a rigorous
separation between love, which we can experience only privately, and
respect, which we earn in and require for our public lives. If it is
true that, as Arendt once observed, “in the works of a great writer we
can almost always find a consistent metaphor peculiar to him alone in
which his whole work seems to come to a focus,” then her thought is
certainly focussed on the image of distance or separation. A dignified
individual existence, she believes, requires distance from others, the
“interspace” that she described in the Hamburg speech. Compassion is
dangerous, in her view, because “not unlike love,” it “abolishes the
distance, the in-between which always exists in human intercourse.”
What preserves that distance, on the other hand, is pride—the pride of
equals that she finds exemplified in the political realm, the “public
space.”

I am not good enough on Arendt to be able to say if this characterization is problematic.  But let's take it as accurate.  I think it moves away from a Confucian sensibility, which would not require "a rigid separation between love…and respect."  Of course, for Confucians, not all loves are the same: we will naturally feel a stronger love for our families than for strangers.  That, in a sense, is the genius of Confucius.  He recognizes the commonality (but not universality, I know: there will be some people who, for whatever reason, do not love their family; but that does not fundamentally undermine the larger Confucian presumption) of familial love, and he makes that the basis of his understanding of our primary duties.  This should make the fulfillment of Duty rather easy.  We will want to do the right thing for those that we love.  And if we do that, we learn how to do the right thing more generally and that, then, gives us a moral orientation for going out into the world to do the right thing in social and political contexts.  Furthermore, those who love best at home (i.e. manage their family duties properly) will gain the most respect publicly.  Public respect is an extension of familial love.

Thus, what starts out as a recognition of differential love (we love our families more than strangers) ultimately leads to a theory of extensive social action.  You can't really separate the personal love from the social and political action.  

A Confucian might accept the idea of "distance" between individuals in the public space, a distance defined by respect.  But that distance should not, for a Confucian, preclude social action inspired and modeled on familial love.  Perhaps it is simply a matter of extent: Arendt wants more social distance than a Confucian would.  And I think a Confucian might worry that too much distance might become an obstruction to extending the enactment of Duty from the family realm into the public space.

At the end of the day, I find myself drawn more toward the Confucian perspective.  Too much distance could produce a barren and uncaring public space.  I can understand how Arendt, personally, might not have wanted to have her closest loving relationships open to the public (which is something perhaps required by Confucianism: the public needs to know if a leader is properly performing his family duties).   But the theorization of her personal complications may have produced an impoverished notion of public space.

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  1. Peony Avatar

    Hi Sam,
    I really enjoyed the New Yorker article, but like you, that one paragraph puzzled me a lot– as the article never to my mind spelled out exactle what was meant. Trying to decipher the paragraph, I read it this way:
    1) Arendt said that she did not love people but loved persons. Like
    Dostovesky, she did not love humanity, but rather loved her neighbors, her family and friends; she said “I have never in my life ‘loved’ any people or collective. . . . I indeed
    love ‘only’ my friends and the only kind of love I know of and believe in
    is the love of persons.” I think this is similar to the existentialists and maybe not unlike the confucian thinkers….
    2) That while our emotions and loyalty are rooted in community or close affinity, human beings are political creatures and we need to “do our thing” in public. So, while we love and care in private, we “flourish” in public (Aristotle). This is my take but even when she says public, I think of this
    too as a particular public sphere and cultural context. So, in that sense I don’t agree with you that she had an impoverished sense of the public sphere (compared with what you see in Confucian thought) as indeed, I do think Arendt thought it was in public life (a particular polis to which a person felt that he or she belonged) that individuals could truly be able to flourish…
    Perhaps the paragraph– rather than pointing to an impoverished sense of the public sphere– rather points to a stronger emphasis on the individual (in contrast to Confucianism)…
    So, in this way while she loved persons (not humanity in the abstract) for her human flourished required a dialogue between equal individuals and maybe here is where the space came in. To my mind it is this focus on individual flourishing within the public sphere that perhaps has a stronger emphasis than what you see in Confucian philosophy…
    In any case, you know I love Arendt and was so glad you pointed out the article. Talk to you soon!

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  2. isha Avatar
    isha

    Sam and Peony:
    I just start to read Peony posts on central Asia and her Tang posts are simply beautiful. I will write some comments later.
    On Hannah Arendt:
    Here are some questions (real ones) I have:
    1. If Arendt were alive today, do you think she would condemn Israel’s genocidal policy against Palestinians? Or would she join these Israeli spectators to watch the “ultimate sport event” and enjoy it?
    2. Arendt’s relationship with Heidegger never stops to amaze me, just like Heidegger’s relationship with Nazi-ism never stops to amaze me. I had some hard time reading Heidegger and I had to admit it is a wonderful reading experience but I don’t quite follow him. To me, Arendt is the best propagandist but definitely not a first class and original thinker. How much Heidegger’s (he is the tutor and mentor, I guess) influenced Arendt’s writings? And how much Nazi-ism ideology has influenced the narrative of the state of Israel, if any? Why the similar methods of operation?
    Are there any connection between Nazi-ism, Zionism and the following report?
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,504803,00.html
    3. On the banality of evil, do you consider the Neo-cons who give the world the Iraqi war as a lack of imagination or too much imagination? They are definitely not the mechanics, they are the controllers and they operate with much more sophistication. Is that fact make them nobler than, say, Hitler or Eichmann? How much Nazi ideology has influenced these Neo-cons thinking/actions?
    4. Seems to me Arendt always has to wrestle with her identity. She tried to assimilate into Germany high society but failed; she tried to commit herself with Zionism but she looked down upon Central European Jews, not to mention these “oriental mobs”, is that partly the reason why she needs her social distance? By the way, isn’t it a German Jewish issue that they have always been treating Asian societies as sub-human “oriental despotism” from Karl Marx all the way to Karl August Wittfogel. To them, all the Asian cultures and by implications, are inferior and in need of western enlightenment, even at the expanse of colonialism/imperialism. I just found out Karl Marx’s involvement with opium trade. Here is a piece of Marx on the Opium war. “That a giant empire, containing almost one-third of the human race, vegetating in the teeth of time, insulated by the forced exclusion of general intercourse, and thus contriving to dupe itself with delusions of Celestial perfection-that such an empire should at last be overtaken by fate on [the] occasion of a deadly duel, in which the representative of the antiquated world appears prompted by ethical motives, while the representative of overwhelming modern society fights for the privilege of buying in the cheapest and selling in the dearest markets-this, indeed, is a sort of tragical couplet stranger than any poet would ever have dared to fancy.” Translation: “These guys deserve their sorry fate, Suicide by the British Empire” (of course, he wouldn’t even mention the role of the Sassoon family that would be unacceptable in the polite society even then). Look at this piece by on Atimes on Gaza: “Suicide by Israel
    By Spengler” http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KA08Ak01.html
    Sounds very familiar to me.
    Respectfully,
    Isha

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  3. Peony Avatar

    Hi Isha,
    Your questions would take an army of philosophers to even attempt any answers– so Sam I guess that leaves you 🙂
    Just a quick concern: I do not think Arendt was a zionist– in fact, maybe the opposite. And I agree her relationship with Heidegger is absolutely mind-boggling. I am sure it says something about the way human beings really love…. I wanted to say the way women love… but I don’t want to get in trouble 🙂
    More soon.

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  4. Ken Thomas Avatar
    Ken Thomas

    Sam,
    I am somewhat taken aback by the presentation of Arendt, above. I do not take it to be very accurate, and am sorry that I cannot devote a little more time and close reading, tonight.
    But off the top of my head– Arendt is indeed, phenomenological (not existential)– she makes the epistemological claim that love itself, as we experience it (a historical phenomenon or ‘construct’), has as its object specific others– those we love, in our specific relationships as friends, family, community members, lovers– on might stop for a second on her descriptions of the physicality of the resistance movement in Paris.
    Arendt is often a very careful tinker, and she draws sharp distinctions between phenomena and processes “proper to,” which take or have place (a lieu) in the private realm, vs. those which take place in other realms. While I haven’t reviewed the texts in several years, I think these distinctions are more behind the passages quotes rather unfairly– in a patchwork quilt fashion– above.
    Arendt was also quite careful (and extensive) in exploring a history of political systems and forms– qua ‘Origins of Totalitarianism’– in which the balance between public and private is critical. Make no mistake here– one may shine in public, in politics– but the political realm in Arendt’s view is “entirely destructive” of the private– a better use of her phrasing might be that love, and personal relations, are by ‘their own logic of definition,’ by their constitution, “not in the public realm”– and the light of publicity destroys the private, until it withers, and dies.
    Hannah– I’ll resort to the familiar here– declared, of course, simultaneously, that the US and the USSR were the two great totalitarian regimes; and that, by declaring and enforcing that the State was the “only legitimate” agent who may wield violence, modern totalitarianism has destroyed privacy– threatening love and character and collective experience and– in the end– to consume the world.
    Skipping back a few beats, then– if politics is so personally painful and destructive of who we are, of the fragile goodness we nurture in our personal relations, of the remarkable diversity of thought and life– if it is a withering and constant conflict — why do we engage in it?
    “For love of the world,” Hannah might have replied, precisely because our instantiated love and passions– demand that we act to preserve those private realms, whose very fragility cannot be sustained unless we rise to engage in collective activity, in politics, –to confront and understand others, to engage in empathy and distancing and —
    Its never been clear to me that Arendt’s account is entirely right; it idealizes the personal, private realm and — not quite ignores, but glosses over with elitism– the possibility that the personal realm may be highly destructive of ‘self’ while the political/public may, indeed, in contrast, sustain; the view of politics may also be a bit too idealized; by the evidence of the above quotes, Arendts view of the details of romantic love– like de Beauvoir’s — may take the temporal gender arrangements of her time (“lack of distance”) as set and universal, where a more complex and wider reading (of the literature!) would find moments where the virtues of interpersonal love involved much of the ‘distancing’ and formality Arendt tends to attribute to (ideal) political processes.
    And, as I started out, the quotes above are not presented in a careful, accurate fashion which expresses the complexity of Arendt’s thoughts, its development and contradictions and changes– even traces its major themes– though love is one of them.
    While not nuanced either– and I’m sure I’ve made a few mistakes, without turning back to the texts, much less with the care Arendt advocates– I hope I’ve provided a better outline.

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  5. Leanne Ogasawara Avatar

    Ah, Ken, I find you here as well.
    Your comment here was also really helpful, and I am so glad I noticed it.
    Your description of Arendt’s “two great totalitarian regimes” is pure Heidegger and I would add that she was– like Heidegger– a phenomenologist absolutely but also in many aspects an existentialist as well.
    Finally, regarding the distinction between the private and public: your explanation was so very illuminating I thought in showing the manner in which Arendt’s thinking differs profoundly from Confucian thought. My only question would be concerning your description of her stance on the public sphere; because I have not read her as being quite so negative. That is, one engages in the public, not just for love of the world, but also because we are at base political creatures, which is to say that it is only in this public spehere that we as individuals can truly flourish. The philosopher zone show I linked to did a good job of bringing this aspect of her work out I thought… I wonder if you agreed?

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  6. Sam Crane Avatar

    Ken,
    Thanks for the comment. But I don’t get it when you say that Arendt “…declared, of course, simultaneously, that the US and the USSR were the two great totalitarian regimes…” I’m remembering her focus on Nazi Germany and Stalinist Soviet Union as the key illustrations of totalitarianism (rule by terror, “onion skin” political structure, etc.). Indeed, when I quickly searched on Google Books I found very little by way of reference to the US there…

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