A while ago a friend (thanks, Tracy!) sent me a link to a paper on teaching Western philosophy to Chinese college students in China.  It is written by a Chinese professor, Xuetai Qi, who has good experience and has though a lot about how to teach Western philosophy in China.  A thoughtful piece.  He (she? can't tell from the transliterated name…) makes this point, however, that raises some questions:

Mainstream Chinese culture remains Confucian in spirit. This spirit is
not individualist but collectivist, which is believed to be a necessary
condition for social order. It advocates a “vertical” system
in which social members act not as individuals, but are expected rather
willingly to sacrifice personal considerations to collective interests
and thus contribute to social harmony. Specifically, those in positions
of less authority, or the young, should be respectful and obedient to
those of higher rank or greater age.

We hear this a lot, in different contexts.  And there may be some truth in it.  But here's the question: how do we distinguish the "Confucian" sources of collectivist behavior from "socialist" sources of the same.   The twentieth century saw large and powerful political and social movements against "Confucianism," from the May 4th period onward.  The PRC was, until only rather recently, militantly anti-Confucian.  Most people alive in the PRC today grew up in a political milieu in which Confucianism was disdained, at least in official state sources of cultural imagery.  Does none of that matter?  It may be the case that "Confucianism" or "Confucian culture" somehow survived this onslaught.  But it is more likely that traditional beliefs have been distorted and refracted through socialist politics and culture.  Why not say that mainstream Chinese culture includes a collectivist streak which reflects decades of socialist practice as well as reinvented notions of "Confucianism"?   Not all collectivisms are Confucian.

Moreover, there are elements of Xi's analysis that strike me are decidedly un-Confucian (if by Confucian we mean what is actually written in The Analects and Mencius):

…Chinese students can be characterized as “short-run”
pragmatists, though they also show concern for the long-run realistic
goals. “Short-run goals” refer to the pragmatic goals of good
grades and accumulated credits, and on the perceived relevance of courses
to their career. This realistic or pragmatic approach is especially found
in pre-college students in China, but it continues in college students,
and is nurtured by Chinese social conditions. Thus, for example, it is
very common, yet it still surprises the professor from outside China,
that many students will come to her after the first lecture in a philosophy
course to ask what kind of things they need to memorize in order to get
satisfactory grades on the final examination.

I have no doubt that this observation is empirically true.  But the orientation described is not Confucian.  The goal of Confucian education is moral development, the acquisition of the sensitivity and understanding necessary to perform the proper act in any given social context.  It is not at all about "short-run goals."  It is very much about long-term moral perfectionism.  Indeed, the very first thing that Mencius says, in the book that bears his name, is: "Don't talk to me about profit."  Education should not be about career goals and the like.  It is about Humanity and Duty.  I understand where the contemporary Chinese focus on short-run pragmatism comes from.  In such a large, and therefore competitive, society, individuals must struggle for advantage and opportunities.  But recognizing that fact of Chinese life does not make it Confucian.  Indeed, Confucianism would likely counsel contemporary Chinese students to rise above the material, competitive pressures of society at large and keep their eyes on the larger moral prize of Humanity.

Finally, the way teachers teach in contemporary China does not strike me as Confucian:

…the standard teaching method is that they lecture
in an extensive and explicit manner in which all things are well organized
and explained to students. Everything is made quite clear and detailed
in lectures. Many teachers do not attempt to interact actively with students.
This teaching method has both strengths and weaknesses. The strengths
of this pedagogy lie in the fact that in such a way the instructor can
help students to gain a good understanding of lecture points efficiently.
The drawback is also clear: the pretense that the text contains all that
is needed to know: memorize it!—discourages students from thinking
independently and critically. Clarity is a fetish, if it fails to inspire
students to reconstruct, think beyond the text, to apply, to grow.

Again, I am sure this is true, but it does not live up to the ideal of teaching suggested by Analects 7.8:

The Master said: "I never instruct those who aren't full of passion, and I never enlighten those who aren't struggling to explain themselves.

If I show you one corner and you can't show me the other three, I'll say nothing more."

That last sentence suggests a pedagogy that encourages independent thought.  The teacher should not simply lecture in a manner in which "everything is made quite clear."  Rather the teacher should draw students in with provocative topics and ideas that encourage them to think through and discover conclusions and connections on their own; they have to find the other "three corners" of the question after being shown just one.

I know one objection that can be offered against my ideas here: my notion of "Confucianism" is too idealistic, too rooted in the possibilities of the ancient texts and devoid of any consideration of the institutionalization of actually-existing "Confucianism" (in its real world combination with Legalism and its use as a state ideology).  Yes, that's true.  And that is part of the fight I fight: to reclaim "Confucianism" from its historical distortions and misuses.  And it's in that sense that I think, on balance, the teaching practices and experiences in contemporary PRC universities do not strike me as particularly "Confucian."

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2 responses to “One More Time: Is China a Confucian Society?”

  1. SCW Avatar
    SCW

    I’m with you on this, but the situation in calling China “Confucian” is not so different from that in calling the West “Christian”–the problems are bright as day to those with any critical sense of history and the use of ideas in public discourse. Hence I don’t feel like I get much mileage by insisting that the present status quo of post-imperial China doesn’t adhere to the ideals of Kong, Meng, and Xun. (Yes I always have to include him.) Why, in ten million years, WOULD it? Though I suppose public rants always serve a useful purpose given that so few people DO have a critical view of history…and given that the understanding of non-Western civs lags, both internally and externally.
    I think a more interesting point goes as follows. Arguably the grand tragedy of Rujia is precisely that it opened the door so wide for authoritarian, reactionary traditionalism by failing to valorize individual rights and the culture of debate. Authentic Ru (like ourselves?) may protest all they want that our key texts don’t REALLY endorse collectivism or narrow-mindedness, but how far do our teachings, by themselves, actually make possible a society where self-determination and freedom of inquiry are respected?

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    Justsomeguy

    Yes-and-no. I certainly think that a lot of the Confucian aspects discussed here are a part of the system that Confucianism is, specifically when it comes to things like the Imperial Examination System. But I think it also has to do with Confucianism proper. Confucius commented that if someone had memorized all 300 odes and had failed to become moral that the Odes were worthless to that individual, but I don’t think we ought take that to mean that Confucius didn’t expect his students to memorized the Odes and other Classics. I might be waxing Fingarette here, but I do think that Confucius believed in the transformative nature of ritual (and enculturation such as the memorization of the Classics), perhaps even to a naive degree. If someone memorized the Odes and failed to become humane, it wasn’t the fault of the Odes but rather the fault of the student because he had failed to properly internalize them. So what should the student do? Think about the Odes some more, try to understand them. There are numerous examples of Confucius trying to bring out such an understanding in the Analects, showing the various homophones present in the Odes and other Classics and the like (“and Li used Chestnut so the people would tremble” and the like).
    Confucius saw himself as a transmitter, so he didn’t want his students (or himself) to create something new. He wanted them to understand what was already there. A big part of that is memorization. Once you’ve got that first hurdle (but a very important one) you can go on to really internalize it.

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